William Holliday of 1820 Floyd County, Ky Census
In Russell Co. Va tax list, a Charles Holliday is on the 1790 list. He is not on again until 1798.In 1799 we have Charles and William Holliday on this tax list but they are in different tax districts. Are they brothers is the question.(I don't think so) There are other Hollidays in the nearby counties of Washington and Whyte so William could be one of their Children. Charles we know came from Baltimore, Maryland and was a Methodist Circuit Rider. William stays on all the Russell County tax list until 1816. In 1815 he owns 2 horses and 3 head of cattle worth 69 dollars. In 1816 he has only one horse and one head of cattle and was worth only 39 dollars showing he made a big purchase of some type trading one horse and 2 head of cattle for perhaps 50 acreas of land on Carrs Fork to Jesse Adams. He probably made several trips that summer to Ky improving his land there as this was required before a land Grant was issued. The land grant was issued in Dec 1816. By the time the tax man came in 1817 they were all gone to Ky with no doubts in my mind.
I believe John and the rest was born in Russell Co. Va.. Related families of the Holliday on Troublesome was all in Russell Co. also. William Combs, the Fugates, Martins. Smiths, Williams, Bolling. Adams and others. I suspect most of Russell Co. moved to East Ky about the same time. Most of the ones that moved here from North Caroline, lived for a while in Russell Co. before coming on to Ky.
In 1816 William Holliday, as an assignee of Jesse Adams who lived in Va., got a 50 acres Ky. Land grant on Carrs Fork according to a deed I found in the Floyd County Surveys book n Prestonsburg, Ky. This land was later sold in Perry Co. Ky by a William Rogers to Archibald Gibson and he sold it to Jesse Adams and than to William Adams and than to Ump Amburgery (living in Russell County, Va in 1830)and the Ump Amburgey to John Christian deed stated at the mouth of Mallet Fork leading me to believe it was at Pinetop.I have never found were Willliam Holliday sold this land to William Rogers so how Willliam Rogers acquired it I do not know for sure .
. In 1822 William or his son got a land grant for 50 acres on Right Beaver Creek at the mouth of Puncheon Camp Creek as an assignee of Samuel May. In Aug. 10, 1822 he got another 50 acres at the mouth of SaltPetre Branch This land will probably be adjoining the first 50 acres tract at Puncheon Camp Creek. I believe it to be the old man himself as the deeds where signed with a x for his seal on both tracts.
A William Holiday signed a marriage bond for Benjamin Tirey and signed correctly. Since one William could not write and the other one could and since John H. D., a son could write I figure son William could write also and is probably the one that signed the bond and his dad got the land grants.I have never found where they sold any of this land. Apparently they just moved off and left it but some Franklins and Amburgey ended up owning it around 1900. Some Franklins married some of the daughters of Ump Amburgey and I figure this is a connection someway.
This second tract in the property descriptions mentions "to a point just behind John Holliday's house". This John was John H. D., his son who married Allie Justice in 1821 in Floyd County. In John's Marriage bond, he stated he was from the same county and in his permission Slip his Dad's name was William Holliday.
William Holliday was in the 1820 Floyd Co. census showing he was over 45 years of age and had 9 sons and 2 daughters and a wife under 45. In this household was one male 45 and older(William), one female 26 to 45 (wife ), two males 18 to 26 (John and William probably), 1 male 16-18, 3 males 10-16, 3 males under 10, 2 females under 10.(no ideal of their names).
In 1822 John Holliday was ordered to view and mark a road to Caney. This Caney is about 10 miles from Puncheon Camp Creek.
In 1821 William was a witness to a wedding of Benjamin Tirey and Elizabeth Brodine. Later a Katy Tirey (probably a daughter of Benjamin and was misspelled Lyre) was a servant in John's H. D. household in the 1860 Perry Co. Census.
William was not in the 1830 Floyd Co. Census, and not in any of the Floyd Co. tax list that are available. Most of Floyd's tax list has been lost or destroyed . All the above information I think proves that Johns dad was this William Holliday. A William married (bride's name not given) in Perry Co. in 1824 by Jesse Bowling (who lived in Russell Co. about 1818) and a William was on the 1824 Perry Co. Tax list but left this tax list in 1826. This William was probably William's son but could be the old man himself remarrying and moved to Perry Co. but I doubt it. Also the grants in Floyd Co. could be son William instead of the old man. The old man William could have possibly still been living on Carrs Fork which may have become a part of Perry Co. in 1821 depending on where this property is on Carrs Fork but I doubt it because William or John did not come on the tax list until 1824 and was not on the 1821-23 lists.
It seems that all left about the same time except for John H. D who stayed in Perry Co. Samuel on White Oak in Morgan Co. showed up there in 1833. We have no proof that Samuel was the son of William of Floyd Co. except what Charley has told us and it seems that a good connection exists by Walter Holliday moving there and the Perry Co. Hollidays marrying neighbors of the Morgan Co. Hollidays and vice versa etc. Allie, Johns H. D's wife died at the Home of William, son of Samuel of Morgan Co. Ky. on Christmas Day in 1902.and in 1840 Breathitt Co. Census looking at Samuel's neighbors he seemed to be living on Lost Creek or near Jackson, Ky as a William Strong and some Millers were his neighbors.
William's wife name we do not know. She has not been mentioned in any marriage records or deeds that we have found yet. We have found a William and Nancy Holliday purchasing land on Bear Creek in Lawrence Co. Ky. in 1826. that we thought may have been the William that was John H D's dad that left Floyd, but after finding him on a 1822 Lawrence Co. tax list that showed Bear Creek was formally a part of Greenup Co. and knowing a William Holliday was in a 1820 Greenup Co. Census, and William surveying on R beaver on March 1822 I think it was a false hope unless he had already left Beaver and that was his son getting the land grants there but I doubt it, but we have not completely eliminated them yet . Also Samuel could be a son of this William instead of the Floyd Co. William. I have not completely given up the ideal that they are the same yet. William could have been counted twice very easily as census takers got paid by the household and would count empty houses if the occupants had just recently moved or was away.
Although William (of the 1820 Floyd Co. Census) had 11 children,( 9 sons, 2 daughters), John H. D. is the only one we can prove is a child of his, although we feel strongly that the Samuel that settled in Morgan County is a child of his. The William, that married in Perry Co. if not his son will be himself remarrying for some reason. We feel strongly that William may have went back to Virginia after leaving Floyd. If he did he will probably be listed as living and dying in the same county from which he came with no clue that he ever lived in Ky. for a short time. The children of William of the 1820 Floyd Census that we know the names are:
Possible children of William are:
We have found a deed from William Holliday to William Dewitt for 1000 acres on Boone's creek, in 1782. We do not know where this is unless it is around Fort Boonesbourgh, Ky. There is a Boone's Creek in Clark Co. Ky and one in what is now Wolfe Co. Ky. It appears our Holliday line may be connected with the Holliday's in Clark Co. and Mason Co. but no proven connections has been found yet. It also appears our line was connected with the Combs family in Va. or N. C. also. If you take a look at all of Williams friends, neighbors and the time he came into Carr's Fork, we should strongly suspect he was born in North Caroline. The Adam's came from North Caroline in 1809. The Tyree's also came from there. The Gibson's who was a witness to the deed in Carr's Fork also came from North Caroline in 1816. The Johnson's came from North Caroline also. The Justice Family and the Combs Family went from Va. to N. C. and then back to Ky. with most staying for a while in southwestern Va. I think William may have done the same thing but I have no proof.
In the 1850 Perry Co Census there was a Elijah Holliday, age 65 and was listed as a Hatter. He was living in the City of Hazard at the time of the Census. I have never found him in any other census for 1800-1840 . However for 1850 I found another Elijah Holliday in the Frederick Co. Va. census. He must have been living with relatives all those years or was in a census by his middle name or maybe Elijah was his middle name. He may have been a brother, uncle or cousin as Tolbert named one of his children Elijah.
Walter Holliday, son of John H. D. Holliday of Perry, on his Ky death certificate has his dad as born in what is now West Va. and his mother Allie as born in Ky.
Jillson and William, sons of Samuel, Ky death certificates say they were born in Indiana so William may have left Ky for Indiana and then returned to his home in West Va. before his death. The children of the William and Nancy in the 1820 Greenup Census I know went to Wayne Co. Ind. One of their children Margaret,married Robert Hazlett and they had a child named Leander Hazlett. The name Leander is in both Samuel's and Johns line.